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Dare 26 - unusual sound creation techniques

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Started March 8th, 2014 · 135 replies · Latest reply by minagarmehei 9 years, 8 months ago

AlienXXX

2,111 sounds

2,392 posts

11 years, 9 months ago Edited: 11 years, 9 months ago
#61

Uploaded a few more sounds and re-organized my packs:

Dare-26 Processed Sounds (Loops)
Loops created from sound-to-image or data-bending sounds OR by processing sounds in an image editor.
http://www.freesound.org/people/AlienXXX/packs/14099/

Dare-26 Processed sounds (drumkit)
Here I will compile a drumkit created from manipulations of sounds created from copyc4t's logo.
http://www.freesound.org/people/AlienXXX/packs/14106/

Dare-26 Examples and New sounds
For sounds I have created myself. Often these sounds are meant to illustrate a specific technique.
http://www.freesound.org/people/AlienXXX/packs/14193/

I want to believe.
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deleted_user_3247643

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110 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#62

I have to say, I'm enjoying this immensely and good to see lots of different sounds being uploaded all with individualist approaches. But, the variable outcomes in my own processes are bending my mind; so many sounds. Help, I'm drowning in sounds! Only joking, it's great.

copyc4t

283 sounds

655 posts

11 years, 9 months ago Edited: 11 years, 9 months ago
#63

toiletrolltube wrote:
Copyc4t, it sounds great and you can still see part of the original image in the spectrum. You've immortalised my avatar in sound, I'm honoured smile
It was fun to work on it smile So, as a little bonus, here's the isolated "ding!" sound from it:
http://www.freesound.org/people/copyc4t/sounds/231769/

Now, since the harmonic side of this Dare is a little behind...
http://www.freesound.org/people/copyc4t/sounds/231766/
a.k.a. LuckyLittleHarshLead (I can haz wobblez!)

Being so rich in high frequencies, it works well even with drastic cutoff, so it's quite wobble-friendly.
If you keep it cut down, try adding a phaser and a chorus for a quite powerful sound smile

copyc4t - http://soundcloud.com/copyc4t
AlienXXX

2,111 sounds

2,392 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#64

copyc4t wrote:
Now, since the harmonic side of this Dare is a little behind...

Very true!
Just to explain, to anyone that did not catch what you meant:
'harmonic' or 'mellodic' sounds are the instrument sounds normally used to carry the mellody in a music piece. As opposed to 'percussion' sounds that carry the rhythm, and also different from 'drone' sounds which can express a musical note, but are long sounds with textural variation but (almost always) constant pitch.

Thus I created a new pack where I will be posting my mellodic sounds.
At the moment all there is in the pack are some modified versions of sounds others created. http://www.freesound.org/people/AlienXXX/packs/14212/
In time I will add some more sounds, created from scratch with he techniques we have been discussing.

I want to believe.
copyc4t

283 sounds

655 posts

11 years, 9 months ago Edited: 11 years, 9 months ago
#65

Di-di-dinnnnng!

more variations on the previous Ding! sound; the 2 second long ones come from a longer rendering in AudioPaint, so the hit sound is a bit stretched compared to the original "Ding!"; the others come from a rendering of the grid alone with only the first beat, and 8 seconds duration.

http://www.freesound.org/people/copyc4t/sounds/231969/
http://www.freesound.org/people/copyc4t/sounds/231970/
http://www.freesound.org/people/copyc4t/sounds/231971/
http://www.freesound.org/people/copyc4t/sounds/231972/
http://www.freesound.org/people/copyc4t/sounds/231973/

Last but not least, a version of the 8 seconds sustained one without the initial hit, but if you try to play melodies with this, you'll find something more proper for Halloween than for April Fool grin
http://www.freesound.org/people/copyc4t/sounds/231974/

EDIT: fresh from the oven and already available:
http://www.freesound.org/people/copyc4t/sounds/232000/
A mysterious ambience from http://www.freesound.org/people/luckylittleraven/sounds/223070/
processed with Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch with prominently tonal setting at 8.04x

...of the same stretching kind:
http://www.freesound.org/people/copyc4t/sounds/232025/
http://www.freesound.org/people/copyc4t/sounds/232026/

copyc4t - http://soundcloud.com/copyc4t
Headphaze

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3,180 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#66

Recently I've been making music tracks comprised entirely of hand-drawn waveforms in Soundforge. wink


I am the thing that goes bump in the night...

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AlienXXX

2,111 sounds

2,392 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#67

Headphaze wrote:
Recently I've been making music tracks comprised entirely of hand-drawn waveforms in Soundforge. wink

Would you like to provide links? I am sure we would all be delighted to listen to these smile

I want to believe.
Headphaze

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3,180 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#68

AlienXXX wrote:Would you like to provide links? I am sure we would all be delighted to listen to these smile

I haven't finished a track yet, but I can export a snippet for you later.

[Its abstract electronic dance music by the way]

I'm actually thinking about releasing a sample pack on Freesound all hand drawn. Perhaps percussive drum sounds (because these are the simplest to create).


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AlienXXX

2,111 sounds

2,392 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#69

copyc4t wrote:
processed with Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch with prominently tonal setting at 8.04x

Both Paulstretch and programs like Audiopaint (or others converting image to sound) use FFT (Fast Fourier Transforms).

Image-to-sound programs convert the brightness of points on the image to intensity values, vertical axis to frequency and horizontal axis to time. Since the user can specify the duration of the sound, you can effectively produce stretched (or shortened) versions of a sound.
The problem with Audiopaint is that it does not convert sound-to-image, it only does image-to-sound.

I have used Photosounder very sucessfully to stretch sounds (before I had Paulstretch). But Photosounder is not a free program.

Of course, you can do it with just Audiopaint and Audacity:
Select spectrum display mode in Audacity. Do a screen grab. Clip the sound spectrum to an image and ajust colours (e.g. convert to grayscale). Import this image to Audiopaint - make sur eto use the same frequency settings as from Audacity: top and bottom frequencies on the display and the correct scale (linear or logarithmic).

I want to believe.
Headphaze

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3,180 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#70

'Metasynth' is another great program. It's got a number of really quirky experimental sound creation/manipulation techniques. Its pretty comprehensive sound design tool, but it cost quite a bit of money. The down side is that it's MAC OSX only.

There is a demo available which has slightly reduced functionality wink

http://www.uisoftware.com/MetaSynth/index.php


I am the thing that goes bump in the night...

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deleted_user_3247643

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11 years, 9 months ago Edited: 11 years, 9 months ago
#71

Headphaze wrote:
'Metasynth' is another great program. It's got a number of really quirky experimental sound creation/manipulation techniques. Its pretty comprehensive sound design tool, but it cost quite a bit of money. The down side is that it's MAC OSX only.

There is a demo available which has slightly reduced functionality wink

http://www.uisoftware.com/MetaSynth/index.php

Thanks Headphaze, which reminds me, might be time for a tinker with this -

http://www.camelaudio.com/cameleon5000.php

Could be the Windows equivalent of MetaSynth, but I can't say for sure as I don't know enough about either, except that one is a plug in, the other more like a workstation.

Headphaze

347 sounds

3,180 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#72

toiletrolltube wrote:

Thanks Headphaze, which reminds me, might be time for a tinker with this -

http://www.camelaudio.com/cameleon5000.php

Could be the Windows equivalent of MetaSynth, but I can't say for sure as I don't know enough about either, except that one is a plug in, the other more like a workstation.

Thanks for the suggestion. Although, I actually purchased Alchemy quite a while back. It can do everything Chameleon can, and much much more.

Alchemy really is my 'go to' sound creation tool.


I am the thing that goes bump in the night...

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kb7clx

137 sounds

46 posts

11 years, 9 months ago Edited: 11 years, 9 months ago
#73

Hi folks, I'm posting for the first time in this forum, and the sounds I created for this dare are the first I've ever uploaded though I've been a member of Freesound since 2007 or 2008. Thanks to AlienXXX for the invite. I've never used Audio Paint before, but I used to play around with The VOICE, Seeing with Sound, which is a program that sonifies images and camera feeds for the blind. I am myself totally blind, but as I only fooled around with it here at my desktop, I don't have a portable device with a camera capable of running the program, I never really got the hang of "seeing" much with it, though it was great for lining up my webcam before I got on Skype. But it was fun to play around with. Here's a link to a piece I created with Musinum, a 16-bit program that makes fractal music by plugging in values into a mathematical function the program uses. As a background I used sound from the VOICE as I randomly pointed the camera at stuff in front of me. Actually I used that sound 3 times. Looped at normal speed, half speed, and quarter speed. You hear my screen reader spouting some stuff during the recording because I was using What You Hear. I thought it sounded cool so I left it that way.
Scanning for Lifeforms on Reverbnation

And here are my sounds for the dare which are my first uploaded sounds. I used 3 images to create 9 sounds, I sonified the Rainbow and Rainbow Lace images with both Audio Paint and Goldwave. With Rainbow João I used one of the scales from the scale library suggested in Audio Paint. I wish there was a quicker way to find out what these scales are than opening them up one by one in notepad to read the description.

AlienXXX

2,111 sounds

2,392 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#74

Welcome to the dare kb7clx !
It is a pleasure to have you with us.

I have a USB camera (somewhere) and plan to do some crazy-camera-feedback-sonification with VOICE.
Gosh... I will run out of days to life long before I run out of (crazy) ideas.

Stick around if you have a chance and listen to the sounds uploaded by others.
These techniques can produce some really unusual results. Plus everyone is encouraged to manipulate the sounds further and to take sounds uploaded by others and create something with them.

I want to believe.
K
kb7clx

137 sounds

46 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#75

Thanks for the welcome AlienXXX! Actually I did go through most of the sounds here, some great stuff. And I'm impressed with the drum kits and loops, especially the toms.
Hmm sonification feedback, that would be interesting. Set VOICE to instantaneous sonification rather than scan, run the sound from VOICE through a spectrum analyzer/software oscilloscope, point the camera at the output of the spectrum analyzer. That would be some crazy feedback I'll bet.

copyc4t

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655 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#76

Scanning for Lifeforms is mesmerizing, like recursively getting lost into oneself.
Well done kb7clx !!
And thanks for pointing out Musinum, it's quite interesting!

copyc4t - http://soundcloud.com/copyc4t
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kb7clx

137 sounds

46 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#77

copyc4t wrote:
Scanning for Lifeforms is mesmerizing, like recursively getting lost into oneself.
Well done kb7clx !!
And thanks for pointing out Musinum, it's quite interesting!

Thanks for the kind words copyc4t! Yep, I watched way too many B movies when I was a kid. grin Musinum is a lot of fun. One of these days I've got to try to find a 16-bit emulator for my 64-bit machine that's accessible so I can get back into it.

copyc4t

283 sounds

655 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#78

I realize it's a quite convoluted workaround, but since Musinum works well on Linux via Wine, you could install a Linux virtual machine (with Virtualbox or VMWare for instance) and install Musinum onto it.

At least the main Linux distributions take accessibility into account, so the only thing to verify would be how accessible the virtual machine handlers are.

copyc4t - http://soundcloud.com/copyc4t
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kb7clx

137 sounds

46 posts

11 years, 9 months ago
#79

Thanks, that's certainly something to think about. I have debated over the years about trying Blinux the Linux distribution for the blind that loads with Orca.

AlienXXX

2,111 sounds

2,392 posts

11 years, 8 months ago Edited: 11 years, 8 months ago
#80

I am sure some of you are following this thread. Here is a little Dare 26 spin-off:
http://www.freesound.org/forum/dare-the-community/34991/
Would appreciate your participation in this experiment! - Thanks

I want to believe.
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