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Frogs and rain only, dammit!

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Started January 30th, 2008 · 19 replies · Latest reply by plagasul 13 years, 10 months ago

Bram

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1,573 posts

17 years, 6 months ago
#1

so, here's an absurd one.

make a song of exactly 2 minutes, 43 seconds and 96.9098 milliseconds that uses frog and rain sounds only.

post the song on ccmixter and post a link to it here, make sure the description of the song makes no sense at all. wink

the weirder the song the better.

for extra bonus points figure out why the song needs to be exactly that long and explain it's relation to the imaginary number i.

- bram

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Suva

3 sounds

22 posts

17 years, 6 months ago
#2

Does the 96.9098ms make any sense at 44100, samplewise?


7 192 574 samples is the closest I got. To match the exact requirements we probably have to use much higher rate sampling. smile

Bram

122 sounds

1,573 posts

17 years, 6 months ago
#3

brrzzzzzt! try again.

- bram

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Suva

3 sounds

22 posts

17 years, 6 months ago
#4

163.0969098 * 44100 = 7192573.7221800 ~ 7 192 574

Or I am miscalculating something?

Bram

122 sounds

1,573 posts

17 years, 6 months ago
#5

please take the "exactly" with a grain of salt.... I thougt you were trying to guss why exactly that length.
the length probably doesn't make sense at any samplerate.
it's just a special number.

- bram

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NoiseCollector

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376 posts

17 years, 6 months ago
#6

Is it the average length of sounds on here?

Google translated it to 2.71828183 minutes but googling that gets dangerous.

http://www.archive.org/details/noisecollector
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Suva

3 sounds

22 posts

17 years, 6 months ago
#7

It's apparently e constant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant)

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couch

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1 post

17 years, 6 months ago
#8

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DrumAliens

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12 posts

17 years, 5 months ago
#9

Count me in, is there a deadline for this ?????

When you say rain does that exclude thunder ???

exp(1) = 2.718282 which equates to the 2 min 43seconds and 96.9098 milliseconds

exp(i1) = sin(1) + icos(1) this then gives the following cartesian coordinates
exp(i1) = 0.841471 + i 0.540302

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AdrianaSpalinky

23 sounds

6 posts

17 years, 3 months ago
#10

I think i may be the number of grains of salt haarvested from ye dead sea & it may take ye 2 minutes, 43 seconds and 96.9098 t'grab that thar salt, afore ye is chased outa the sea by me

haha, avahst Jim lad

CGEffex

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40 posts

14 years, 10 months ago
#11

Is there a prize for this one? grin

Better films through sound design!
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kantouth

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62 posts

14 years, 10 months ago
#12

Sounds awesome!

I agree with the question above, Are "tunder" sounds allowed?

and we are not limited to 2 sounds right? (just Rain and Frogs, any number of samples may be used tongue)

7,824,097 are the closed number of samples i can get to (pro tools 8 LE)

I do sound for TV FILM AND VIDEOGAMES, lets talk business.
mr16ga

0 sounds

31 posts

14 years, 9 months ago
#13

Do toads count. Not too many frogs around but lots of toads.

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miniPhil

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2 posts

14 years, 9 months ago
#14

I guess I'm first
http://ccmixter.org/files/miniPhil/29265

I know it says 2:44 but it's really 2:43:93. That was as close as I could get.

mr16ga

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31 posts

14 years, 9 months ago
#15

miniPhil
I guess I'm first
http://ccmixter.org/files/miniPhil/29265

I know it says 2:44 but it's really 2:43:93. That was as close as I could get.

That was a very nice way to spend 2:43 I like it. Good work.

ayamahambho

288 sounds

388 posts

14 years, 6 months ago
#16

Sample rate is counted "per second". 44.1kHz means 44100 samples per 1 second.
So, let see, what kind of sample rate we need. First - let create a math.

SR / 1s = x / t

where

SR = samplerate
1s = 1 second
x = our variable
t = less than 1 second ending (96.9098ms /1000 = 0.0969098s)

x / t must be a total number.
(0.0969098 * 10 000 000) / 0.0969098 = 1

Then SR = 10 000kHz = 10MHz

But both - SR and the number 969098 can be divided by common numbers, so we can decrease the SR a little bit.

/2
5000 kHz
484 549

and there are no more common numbers to divide (SR can be divided only by 2s and 5s, none supported by variable x)

So you need the SR to be 5MHz in order to achieve such digital accuracy. Such samplerate - 5MHz - is not usual for sound, even not for ultrasound. Our systems use 192kHz resolution (it's 0.192MHz). Hypersound I guess would be... But Cool Edit (aka Adobe Audition) can and will produce sound sample at that sample rate.

(-;

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ayamahambho

288 sounds

388 posts

14 years, 6 months ago
#17

...and now a little bit of fun. if we divide 5000 kHz / 192 kHz - we get 26.

Why 26 or what to do with that? If we resample sound frequency, dividing it by 2 by 2 by 2 by 2 by 2 (5 octaves down but perhaps 4 should be enough), then we could probably emulate frogs with crickets (some species work sound similar to frogs when are 3 octaves down), and thus - we achive what we wanted to. Sound taken from it's natural environment (5MHz) and put into standard 192kHz as something that we wish to sell as "frogs". (-;

With rain, we should try to capture very small drops in order to resample it later. Drizzle perhaps? Or water bobbles in coca cola (-;

The relation to imaginary number "i" is obvious, so there is no need to explain. (-;

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hear-no-elvis

28 sounds

27 posts

14 years, 3 months ago
#18

miniPhil
I guess I'm first
http://ccmixter.org/files/miniPhil/29265

I know it says 2:44 but it's really 2:43:93. That was as close as I could get.

I guess you won the prize. Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! Dammit!

Type louder please, I have tinnitus. :¬D
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plagasul

229 sounds

182 posts

13 years, 10 months ago
#19

Bram has gone nuts of, oh, so much coding

Jaume Ferrete www.jaumeferrete.net
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