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    So I have read through all three pages of post, and its still not to clear to me on some planes. For example, say I wanted to record a sound effect wich includes multiple sounds from an electronic keyboard, such as a rimshot (Badom-Tish), would it be legal to share under CC0 as a creation of my own? Technically its not a single sampled effect from the keyboard, but it is not really a compositon, or "work of art". Where would such works fall legally?

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    ok

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    What if you are using a prog like FLSPro and you totally change the sample by ADSR and maybe even combine two samples into one sound. Do you think that's legal?

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    I think I do not fully understand your desire to please help me explain further.

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    I'm going to take a stab at the legality discussion with a strong caveat that I'm not a lawyer, but I am an artist and the idea of appropriation in the digital age is something I think about a lot.

    I guess it would be good to begin with the intent of copyrighting a synth sample. I would imagine the reason a company would do it is not to prevent individuals from using it in a song or other content, but to prevent someone from taking that exact sound, implementing it in a device or software of their own, and then selling it as a product. Also the idea that distributing the sample might devalue their own product by hurting the demand for the sound that their product offers.

    So in the real world, if you used a copyrighted synth sample in your project, no one is going to take any action, because it would be impossible to police, and it's not the intent of the law. So the ethics of recording and uploading a synth sample, and even downloading and using it for the individual is a moot point. Don't worry about it, nobody is going to be knocking on your door

    But, what copyright does is reserve the right of the owner to litigate. So even though they might not come after you as an individual for using the sample in a soundtrack or song (because it would be very difficult to isolate and prove the sound is actually theirs, especially if it's been edited and mixed, and even harder to prove you didn't pay for it), it would be much easier for them to come after a website that was hosting the sample in it's pure and unadulterated form, because the website would be a clear and easy target.

    So it's not a question of will this directly effect you as an individual, but would it jeopardize the website. So that is why you wouldn't want to upload certain content.

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    @jhsu8888

    For the purpose of this discussion on copyright, there are 2 types of synths:
    a) the ones that are based on samples
    b) the ones not based on samples

    Note that wavetable synths fall in category a) since a wavetable is effectively a one wave-cycle sample.
    Synths that are not sample-based have their sound completely generated by electronic means (which could be computer calculations, in the case of virtual synths).

    When it comes to using synths (or other instruments of any kind) we only have 2 types of situations:
    1) live performances
    2) recordings

    Since synths are obviously intended for making music, use of any synth in situations 1) and 2) is not a copyright issue.
    A recording is, effectively, a sample since it involves copying something and storing it into a medium (tape, CD, computer memory, etc). However, what is being sampled here is the full musical piece, which includes the melody, the performance and possibly additional instruments and musicians.

    The samples used in sample-based synths are copyrighted. So, a straight copy would be a copyright violation.
    What if I change the sample a little bit? - This still constitutes copyright infringement. Adding filtering or reverb does not add enough 'new original contents' to be considered a new piece.

    Then, there is borderline...
    What if I change the sample so much that it becomes unrecognizable?
    Technically, it is still copyright infringement. But if the sample really has become unrecognizable, no one will know which means no one can sue you.

    And a very interesting one:
    What if I recreate the sound using my own means?
    This is OK. You can possibly get very close, but will not be exactly the same sound. You have created it, not copied it, so is fine. - Make sure you keep records of how you made it, though! In case someone tries to sue.

    2 final points
    - People only actually sue people when there is money involved. You can sample whatever you want in your music productions if they do not leave your bedroom. The moment you publish them, especially if you are trying to do so commercially, be careful.
    - Freesound's limit of liability in case a sound is found to be a copyright infringement is to take down that sound once notified. - The liability always stays with the uploader. You accept those terms when you create a Freesound account.

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