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Started October 27th, 2008 · 5 replies · Latest reply by Rweale 15 years, 5 months ago
Please forgive the lengthy post.
I am a sound-based art composer and lecturer in music technology. I am currently running a project at the LOROS Hospice in the UK (Leicestershire Organisation for the Relief of Suffering) in which I play environmental sound recordings and soundscapes for small groups of patients who are undergoing palliative care at the hospice, and we talk about our listening experiences. The patients find the sessions of great benefit.
Based on patient feedback, I am currently looking expand the project to provide the patients with a sample resource through which they can select and/or create their own environmental soundscapes that they can listen to in their own time, without having to come along to the organised sessions - this is particularly useful for those patients who are bed ridden. As LOROS is a registered charity the purchasing of licenses for patients to use commercial sound effects and recordings is prohibitive.
To this end, I have a question for the Freesound forum; does the Freesound license allow me to download Freesound samples (in their unaltered entirety) and place them into a sound library that is accessible for patients at the hospice?
These sounds will be for the use of LOROS patients on site at the hospice only, a) as creative material in the creation of individual soundscape compositions, and b) as listening material (for group or individual listening sessions); to this end the material may also be used as creative material by myself, to create soundscapes for use in the individual and group listening sessions. Note: I run the sessions as a volunteer and receive no compensation for the sessions that I provide.
Thanks
Rob Weale
Rob, can I begin by welcoming you to the freesound project. I hope that you enjoy your time here. I also extend my congratulations to you on this project you are doing. It is a very worthwile cause and I hope that it has the outcome that it sets out to. Can I also extend my best wishes to all your pacients, and I am sure that my centiments are echoed across the board.
ON the specific issue of the samples themselves, I am afrade I am unable to help you as I am neither admin, loyer or moderator, and as such I would strongly erge them to post and respond to this topic, showing the greatest respect to you as possible.
I hope you are successful in your quest.
P.S, on a lighter note, are you aware that it says here you have added 2 sounds, however in your profile, there are in fact no files added? Does anyone know if something happened?
Matt, I know you are trying to help, but please don't answer threads where you only say you don't know the answer... You're not helping!
Rob, , I believe that this is probably legal, but you obviously have to -in some way- attribute the original authors, like the license requires you to do. This might be rather difficult in your case, but somne way needs to be found. Perhaps attributing could simple be having a list somewhere (online or offline) with authors of sounds, and when asked refer to this list.
I do believe this usage does fall under commercial usage (you might not be paid, but the hospital is a commercial entity), so when we change to the new freesound license model (in X months), I think it's best to stay away from any samples with the noncommercial clause. The Sampling+ license is very vague when it comes to commercial usage, ...
- Bram
I would say it is allowed. Commercial use is all fine, as long as the works (in this case sounds) are not used to advertise for or promotoe anything other than the work you create from it. I read that as you may use it in commercial works (movies, music), but you may not use them for commercials other than those for the work you created. So you may not make a commercial for shoes or cars or anything, but you may use the sounds in a movie trailer or ad for music album, when you use a part of the work (movie, album) containing that sample. I hope that's clear.
For example, I made a video using freesounds, posted it on Revver, which makes it commercial use (as Revver pays for overlayed ads). I can make a trailer of that video in which you hear the freesounds, that is ok. But I cannot use the video to advertise for anything else.
That's one part of the Sampling + license. A second part is the line "For any reuse or distribution, you must make clear to others the license terms of this work. The best way to do this is with a link to this web page." Just as Bram said, you must attribute the sounds, you can think of it as metadata. When people choose sounds in a computer system, they should on the respective pages see who created the samples (attribution) and how I read it, you must also show the sounds are licensed under Creative Commons Sampling + license.
If people can choose sounds from a list on paper, it can be done easily by simply format the list as by [creator] and a line at the bottom with the license.
Again, if you want to be really sure, you should ask a lawyer.