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    Counter Attacking Youtube Copyright Claims


    Yes, bringing this up and looking for advice.
    I am getting constant messages from people who used my sounds on youtube and get copyright notices from artists who then put my sound into YouTube "Content ID" system.
    I am wondering if its possible to make one large youtube video that has the majority of my sounds on it and claim the copyright as my own, whilst still allowing anyone to use my sounds without issue.
    Has anyone done this? Does it work? I need help, I am very tired of disputing copyright on youtube.

    Some examples of people who stole my sounds blatantly and is also preventing others from using my sounds for creative purposes. The videos have now been removed but I am sure more of this will happen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F43AFXssF1o
    ------- https://freesound.org/people/Erokia/sounds/368800/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFKTiQJ1voI
    ------- https://freesound.org/people/Erokia/sounds/431464/

    I just want to state that I don't mind these users not attributing me or even making money off my sounds, but to entirely claim the sound as their own and prevent others from using it is just straight up selfish and disrespectful.

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    I just want to state that I don't mind these users not attributing me or even making money off my sounds, but to entirely claim the sound as their own and prevent others from using it is just straight up selfish and disrespectful.

    Recently it happened to me and I thought exactly the same. Couldn't agree more with that.

    Can't really help but I'm looking foward to see other ways of solving these types of situations.

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    I'm actually having a situation somewhat around this. I'm not a content creator, but I do utilize pieces from this site for videos of mine on YouTube, I credit regardless of the attribution status, however I've had two videos come up flagged as copyright, where I downloaded the songs from this site and the songs come from other members.

    https://freesound.org/people/Bradovic/sounds/167812/

    https://freesound.org/people/Giouseppe/sounds/130569/

    Both songs have CC 0 on them, so they are public domain, are not copyrighted and I would not need to credit. Both songs are flagged in YT by the same company CD Baby. It seems whoever CD Baby is, is that they are taking songs and sounds, that others made, incorporating them into their pieces and slapping a copyright on them and making money off other's creations.

    Its bullcrap really...

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    Oh man, this makes me so angry. It's blatant theft. There's a similar phenomenon that's been happening on Reddit and other social networks, where people post a painting and claim it as their own. Not only is it lazy and narcissistic, but it's downright disrespectful to the original artist.

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    Well, its not such a big deal to remove copyright claims through youtube, its just a hassle to do it constantly.
    There has to be a way to make this easier for both parties.

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    What about an audio "watermark" at the beginning or end of your sound? Just something reminding people of the limitations of copyright you've placed on the sound. I realize people could easily crop it and still name it as their own, so it won't deter malicious sound thieves, but it might remind those that are prone to forgetting to attribute, that the file has a copyright. That combined with an attribution/non-commercial license might reduce the number of false claims out there. It's not a perfect solution, but it might help a bit.

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    womb_affliction wrote:
    What about an audio "watermark" at the beginning or end of your sound? Just something reminding people of the limitations of copyright you've placed on the sound. I realize people could easily crop it and still name it as their own, so it won't deter malicious sound thieves, but it might remind those that are prone to forgetting to attribute, that the file has a copyright. That combined with an attribution/non-commercial license might reduce the number of false claims out there. It's not a perfect solution, but it might help a bit.

    In addition to the audible watermark at the beginning and end, you could also add an inaudible watermark that's above human hearing range which you could see on FFT spectrum analysis that can't be edited out.

    However, there's one drawback to this: If you pitched down the sound significantly, you'd then be able to hear the overlay audio watermark as a high-pitched artefact. This would be an extreme use-case though.


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    Headphaze wrote:
    In addition to the audible watermark at the beginning and end, you could also add an inaudible watermark that's above human hearing range which you could see on FFT spectrum analysis that can't be edited out.

    However, there's one drawback to this: If you pitched down the sound significantly, you'd then be able to hear the overlay audio watermark as a high-pitched artefact. This would be an extreme use-case though.

    This is pretty close to some audio watermarking I've been adding to my music.

    I created a spectrogram of text (e.g. www.website.com) and exported it as a sound file. You can create these for free here: https://www.audiocheck.net/audiocheck_spectrotyper.php

    Then I dropped it onto a track and significantly reduced the volume of the watermark (sometimes up to -40db) so that is it entirely inaudible.

    So then you have your original music track unchanged, now with a hidden watermark, which can be revealed by phase-cancellation. To do this, create a copy of your music with the LR channels flipped/inverted and play them at the same time side by side in Audacity or another editor. Your watermark will be heard wherever you placed it. Export the new version (combining the original, and the one with the LR channels flipped).

    Load your new exported file into a spectrogram visual editor (e.g. RX Editor), and lo and behold, you should find your watermark.

    Imgur link for pictures!

    One downside is that this only works well for .WAV files (and other lossless file formats). With .MP3 and .OGG, the watermarks become quite blurry due to compression, though they are still slightly identifiable.

    Nonetheless, this should help prove your ownership over a track/sound.

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    If anyone has a better method for audio watermarking, I'd love to hear it!

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    I appreciate the feedback guys.
    However the problem isn't proving ownership of the sounds, its preventing copyright claims from ever happening on Youtubes Content ID system. I think when I get home and on my desktop computer I will combine all my sounds into one massive video with one second blank intervals between each sound.
    When its in youtubes system I think, or should I say hope that through the creative commons license option on youtube it'll make it harder for others to claim the sound.
    Not sure it'll work but maybe it will.
    I'll let you know.

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    While back i also had problems with a song that got flagget from company CD Baby.
    None of my ejay song thoe hehe, but whhen i had used sony sound pack in my acid music studio10
    the song got flagged for copyright and thoes sounds are Royality-Free same with ejay sounds.
    so i counter claimed with link to amazon buy page of the sound pack(think it was rave or hardcore pack). sinc eit was detected via content id system on youtube, i filed for content id account or what its called so that i can protect my songs not specifik sounds but the entire song composition.
    but i got naswer that i didnt had subs so.

    i think you need to have alott of subs to get a content id in to your youtube account how many i dont know. but its sad its so hard to protect composition, sounds etc.
    specially if its cc0 that is public domain etc.
    also thoes that specific need to be credited or linked to or credited&Linked.
    btw Norwegian with dyslexia. smile

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