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Started October 13th, 2018 · 12 replies · Latest reply by G_M_D_THREE 4 years ago
Hy everyone! I have question..
We are, making some game, but my friend gave me link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XxRUH8DOIQ and said me what these sounds was very good, etc.. After listenig i have a question, in this video (and this game "Hollow Knight") used my 2 sounds? And what to do? If they're didn't credit me.
My sounds:
https://freesound.org/people/kickhat/sounds/381167/
https://freesound.org/people/kickhat/sounds/347742/
P.S. i just came from army, and first time listening about this game.
P.P.S. sry for bad english
Hi kickhat
Your only course of action right now is to send a formal letter to the company/organisation that produced/published the game. In this case it's TeamCherry
You need to state the law regarding Creative Commons license "CCBY 4.0" and the actions you can take against them in a formal and demanding manner, you should make a mild threat with legal action if they won't comply.
The following statement is from the Creative Commons website:
What happens if I offer my material under a Creative Commons license and someone misuses them?
A CC license terminates automatically when its conditions are violated. For example, if a reuser of CC-licensed material does not provide the attribution required when sharing the work, then the user no longer has the right to continue using the material and may be liable for copyright infringement. The license is terminated for the user who violated the license. However, all other users still have a valid license, so long as they are in compliance.Under the 4.0 licenses, a licensee automatically gets these rights back if she fixes the violation within 30 days of discovering it.
If you apply a Creative Commons license and a user violates the license conditions, you may opt to contact the person directly to ask them to rectify the situation or consult a lawyer to act on your behalf. Creative Commons is not a law firm and cannot represent you or give you legal advice, but there are lawyers who have identified themselves as interested in representing people in CC-related matters.
Quoted from: https://creativecommons.org/faq/
Jeffcgury wrote:
yeah stop being greedy
That's not being greedy, they are the ones who should stop stealing assets. They are the ones making money off of others hard work so they have to pay for it.
assets? they're not diamonds, they're just sounds. And if people are so worried about their intellectual property, DON'T UPLOAD YOUR SOUNDS TO A WEBSITE CALLED "FREESOUND". Hello?!?!? If you want others to hear your sounds but not use them, upload them to a site that isn't about sharing sound files, one that just lets you listen to them. Its like placing a $100 bill on the sidewalk then walking away, expecting nobody to "Steal" it. How naive! When I first came to this site, I found the whole three tiers of licencing utterly ridiculous. This site should have been a free sharing forum where you would inject your sounds into the public domain so that all of us may benefit kinda like open source software. Which you do see on here, thankfully when some people tag their uploads as zero. But then you have these jackals who think they are the next Eric Persing and don't understand the concept of freely sharing and only care about money, property, credit, and greed.
Jeffcgury wrote:
assets? they're not diamonds, they're just sounds. And if people are so worried about their intellectual property, DON'T UPLOAD YOUR SOUNDS TO A WEBSITE CALLED "FREESOUND". Hello?!?!? If you want others to hear your sounds but not use them, upload them to a site that isn't about sharing sound files, one that just lets you listen to them. Its like placing a $100 bill on the sidewalk then walking away, expecting nobody to "Steal" it. How naive! When I first came to this site, I found the whole three tiers of licencing utterly ridiculous. This site should have been a free sharing forum where you would inject your sounds into the public domain so that all of us may benefit kinda like open source software. Which you do see on here, thankfully when some people tag their uploads as zero. But then you have these jackals who think they are the next Eric Persing and don't understand the concept of freely sharing and only care about money, property, credit, and greed.
Your analogy is completely irrelevant.
Think of Freesound.org as Shutterstock for audio without the paying part; pretty much Flickr.com for sounds. Creators publish their works-which they have invested time and energy into-rendering them an asset with a certain value attached, how much is decided by the license their willing to publish with. They make these works (assets) available to people who wish to use them for their projects; these are no doubt their assets. Now because these licenses exist makes it a legal offence to breach the terms of the license, therefore "theft" is an appropriate term, like with anything else that is taken and used without authorisation. Just because it's not a company releasing samples for a tangible price doesn't make their works any less valuable.
There's a reason why Creative Commons was started. So that in the digital age of the internet, creators have some control over their own works and retain their creative rights and protections, whilst still allowing those works to be usable by others under certain conditions.
You'll find a lot of sounds here that are published as CC-Zero because those creators are willing to waive all rights to their works, which is great. But, for others who don't like that idea, CC licenses protect the creators' sovereignty.
Is it really greed that is inciting contributors to protect their works? I'd say no, it's that they want to see some credit at least for something they themselves have worked hard to create that someone else has taken and given no recognition for.
"don't understand the concept of freely sharing and only care about money, property, credit, and greed."
Are you sure you're talking about Freesound? You would be surprised to see the amount of hours that we (the creators) put into making and recording these sounds. I can guarantee you that we don't do this because of money, credit and greed and neither to become the next Eric Persing...
Personally I don't really care about crediting, but the least you can do when using a sound is to credit the creator. It's the simplest cheapest way to return the favor.
As much as the whole community here would like it to be truly free there are always costs to maintain a project like this. From the development and maintenance, to the admins and the creators.
Everyone plays their role, otherwise the project would fail. There's more behind the curtain than it seems and it'll never be truly free if you consider that the amount of hours to maintain it has a "price".
In this particular case, as creator, you have the right to protect your work with two different licenses. That's one of the "prices" that the project has.
I don't understand your hate on this issue. You should be glad to see that this community is trying to keep it as much free as possible.
Jeffcgury wrote:
Its not irrelevant , it applies to shutterstock and flcker too.
just look at you people all defending the pansies who "need credit for their work" how sad
You wouldn't understand because obviously you're not a contributor.
I guess Jeffcgury is offended that we are called freesound but some of the sounds here aren't CC-zero.
To appease his sensibilities we could either remove all sounds that aren't CC0, or we could change the name from freesound.org to may-be-some-very-small-strings-attachedsound.org.
I think I know what admin's response would be, but what do you think Jeff, would that be enough to make you a happy member of the club? Perhaps the membership should have a free vote on it?
Indeed, just look at the person trampling on the "pansies", how sad.
I think crediting a creator for its work is a very small price to pay in exchange of using its creation.
If this was a photograph, it's equivalent to me being totally fine with someone hanging a free copy of my photography on there wall at home, but don't remove my signature from it and then pretending you took it.
I am personally tottaly ok when people don't credit me for my sounds, but I get furious when they credit themselves or someone else for it. ; )