My son and I are working on a Music Appreciation project. We took a B-Horror movie from the '50s that was in the public domain and swapped the sound track, giving it surf, rockabilly and garage music that is Creative Commons licensed. Movie is here: http://archive.org/details/ART020BTeenagersFromOuterSpaceColinG
We're thinking of working together on a few new tunes, taking some themes from the movie and using music from the Free Sound Archives. Haven't decided if we will snip voice from the movie soundtrack for music, or request vocal help.
Themes would be:
Focusing disintegrator ray (You are not familiar with the focusing disintegrator ray?)
If Only (Derek uses the phrase at least three times in the movie, "If only there were enough time!", "If only there were enough power!" and I forget the third).
You make me angry but I like you (what a strange love song that could be!)
Folks that have played with sound tracks and mixed sounds together - would you look for original vocals? Would you clip sound from the movie using Audacity, then mix into a song with loops? Any hints to help us get started?
I already extracted the original sound track from the movie as an MP3, and could start slicing it up. Just not sure if we want to go that way. A fourth alternative song might be about Gargon Po'Boys. The space aliens are looking for places for their gargon herds to graze, and they look like gigantic lobsters - so a short Gargon Po'Boy ditty as a commercial might be appropriate.
If you're scoring a film, generally the voice stuff is someone else' problem. you don't want to get in the way, in fact, you don't want to be noticed when your stuff starts or stops. if your work gets noticed at all (think inception, some star wars) is up to someone else! for homework, have your son try really listening to video games when he plays them: a lot of that stuff is designed to not only set a mood/tension, but has to do it and be able to segue & loop gracefully into different environments.
just try listening to media (local top40/ hot ac radio commercial sets are easy) and talk about what the sound was supposed to do there, if it worked or not, then try thinking about how it could've been better.
I appreciate the info. Reading your reply and comparing it to the soundtrack editing we did, we were pretty heavy handed! If we do another project like this, we will need to pay more attention to the mood and action, and try a little better to make music fit that mood. That would be a really fun project using the free sound archives! I enjoy cheesy B horror films, 50's films and film noir - and there are plenty on the Internet Archives to chose from. It might be time to pick another public domain movie and creative commons music and try to do a better fit.
This movie reminds of game "Fallout".
I like the soundtrack, could you also publish the list of used music, so I and others can find original recordings and enjoy whole albums?
The playlist is at the very end of the movie, last 30-40 seconds or so, but very easy to miss and very small type if viewed on a desktop or laptop.
Basic project notes are:
ART020B Music Appreciation
Teenagers from Outer Space goes Surfabilly!
For the Musical project I decided to look for old movies that are freely available in the Public Domain. Since “Bucket of Blood” was written and produced by the same person that originally did “Little Shop of Horrors”, I thought that would be a good choice. On researching “Bucket of Blood”, I learned that it had already been done as a musical in Chicago in 2009. So I continued searching, and decided to use “Teenagers from Outer Space” by Tom Graeff.
After deciding on the movie, I went to the Free Music Archives and listened to music with a Creative Commons license that allowed me to use the music. I stayed away from limited, download-only licensed music, and chose music that allowed me to use it in non-Commercial work.
I selected the Rock genre at The Free Music Archives, then selected the Surf sub-genre. I also searched for Rockabilly. On listening to the music and watching the movie, I put together the following playlist:
One Million Dollar Surf Band, The Deadrocks
Bad Bob, Johnny Barber and the Living Deads
Emergency Exit, Dr. Frankenstein
Theme for the Mad Thinker, Dr. Frankenstein
Evil Makings, Halloween
Monster on Campus, Halloween
Boogie Splash Crash, The Dead Rocks
My Nurse wanna Dance With Me, The Dead Rocks
La terrible maldicion de Tutankamon, The Dead Rocks
Black Out Snow White, Johnny Barber and the Living Deads
O Cerebro do Morto, Dr. Frankenstein
Mission Bucharest, Pharoas
Live at the Winston, track 7, Thee Irma & Louise
Live at the Winston, track 4, Thee Irma & Louise
Rude Dude, Halloween
Stray Jack, Halloween
Infinite Uglies, Halloween
Ya Tu Sabe, Lil Daggers
Look for Danger, Waylon Thornton
Delirius Tremens, The Dead Rocks
A Song for the Future, The Dead Rocks
Nicotene, The Dead Rocks
Very Hazel, Waylon Thornton
The Pharoas Theme, Pharoas
Crazy Race Rock, The Dead Rocks
Warzaw Express, Pharoas
Ayahuasca, Party People in a Can
Ren Yao, Halloween
Six Sticks, Halloween
Necrófago, Dr. Frankenstein
King Korpze, Lil Daggers
Bronco Romp, Waylon Thornton
Favorite Secrets, Waylon Thornton
Green Secret from Amazônia, The Dead Rocks
Kamikaze, The Dead Rocks
I then verified the license for each selection:
Creative Commons Attribution, Share-alike
Johnny Barber and the Living Deads
Live at WFMU on Underwater Theme Park with Meghan on September 8, 2011 by Jonny Barber and the Living Deads is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License.
The New Pharaos by Pharaos is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License.
The Cursed Tapes by Dr. Frankenstein is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives (aka Music Sharing) License.
S/T by Halloween is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
Thee Irma and Louise
Live at the Winston by Thee Irma & Louise is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
Artist/Composer: Lil Daggers; Lil Daggers
Creative Commons license: Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States
Party People in a Can
Way off, where the Spirits are by Party People in a Can is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives (aka Music Sharing) License.
Mystery Club by Waylon Thornton is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
I then split the movie into seperate files. I saved the original as Teenagers_from_Outer_Space.ogv. Then I made an MP3 of the original soundtrack, so I could mute music where possible, but keep audio while actors are talking.
avconv -i Teenagers_from_Outer_Space.ogv -vn -qscale 1 Teenagers_Audio.mp3
Stripped the audio from the movie:
ffmpeg -i Teenagers_from_Outer_Space.ogv -an -vcodec copy Teenagers_from_Outer_Space_nosound.ogv
Now have three files.
Original movie with sound: Teenagers_from_Outer_Space.ogv
Copy of movie with no sound: Teenagers_from_Outer_Space_nosound.ogv
Original soundtrack with no movie: Teenagers_Audio.mp3
I then opened the audio file in Audacity to silence audio whenever actors were not talking. I was unable to completely strip the soundtrack, but was able to silence in sections.I opened up the movie in OpenShot, added the voice sound track with silenced sections and bumped it to try and get voices close to where actors were speaking (I should have split it into smaller subsections to bump it, as the soundtrack got further off as the movie progressed).
After adding voice back, I added the Creative Commons playlist, saved, then exported. Exporting as 720P gave a file that was very big, but since the original movie had been formatted for web, exporting as 720P did not give me any advantages, so I exported in a Youtube/Vimeo format keeping the size smaller.
I did not find The Deadrocks at Free Music Archives, but found them at Jamendo. I messaged The Dead Rocks for approval and learned their music was licensed under Creative Commons as well. I had wanted to use a song from The Bandana Splits (Desert Love) and asked permission, but got a response back after the project was due. I did get a yes, and The Bandana Splits have a fun girl band sound that would work during the cheesy love scene. I was surprised at how approachable some of the musicians are! I think another Public Domain sci-fi/horror flick remake is in order!
Wow, that's more than I asked - thank you!