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    Real names for attribution/licensing.


    I wish that more people would put their real names in their freesound profile.

    Or that freesound account registration would have a field like "Name you wish to use for attribution."

    It feels wrong to thank somebody by a handle like "Jaava73". Like I've made the dude into a cartoon character.

    And if you've got audio credits, it just sounds so stupid. I've got a podcast with credits at the end, and I just point people to the website for attribution list, because I'm not going to say "Thank you very much SageTyrtle for your excellent scrabble board samples." Listeners would think I was making cute in-jokes. But I would like to just say people's names.

    There is also the issue of anonymity when you are entering into a legal agreement with someone. IANALawyer but I'm pretty sure that a contract where one of the parties is identified "mxsmanic from freesound.org" holds up in court, particularly if freesound doesn't have real identities on file. The sound authors have much more protection here than the people that use the sounds, since in a dispute, they can simply claim they had nothing to do with uploading a sound and making it available for license. These things make me particularly nervous when I consider using a sample for a commercial work, where perhaps someone unethical or confused decides that I owe them something despite commercial use being licensable according to their selections.

    I imagine this has been talked about before, but I did a search and didn't find much. Feel free to point me at some existing thread if I'm just repeating past thoughts.

    -Erik

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    You have a very good point here.

    I myself, always require a professional credit for works in which I use other people's sounds.

    I have tediously contacted users to obtain their real name, its fortunate that I don't often use other user's sounds. otherwise I would be pulling my hair out trying to get a reply from unresponsive users who don't check their mail!


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    HP, yeah, I've considered contacting people directly too, and I can definitely see reasons to do it. The effort gets to be pretty large, though.

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    ErikH2000 wrote:
    HP, yeah, I've considered contacting people directly too, and I can definitely see reasons to do it. The effort gets to be pretty large, though.

    Yes, especially if you have used one hundred CC-BY-3.0 sounds.


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    would be nice to be able to change your user name. That doesn't seem possible currently and while I have used one name, I'd love to change it to my real name, but that doesn't seem possible.

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    Maybe try using the contact form here to make a request: http://www.freesound.org/contact/


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    When we put sounds on Freesound, it's with the understanding virtually anyone could use it for anything, with restrictions only related to crediting and profit motive. Your concern as a producer using Freesound content is that internet pseudonyms instead of real names will sound stupid in your piece. As a Freesound content creator, I could worry that an association of my real name will reflect stupidly on me should it appear in stupid or offensive media I have no affiliation or influence over. It goes both ways.

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    stomachache wrote:
    When we put sounds on Freesound, it's with the understanding virtually anyone could use it for anything, with restrictions only related to crediting and profit motive. Your concern as a producer using Freesound content is that internet pseudonyms instead of real names will sound stupid in your piece. As a Freesound content creator, I could worry that an association of my real name will reflect stupidly on me should it appear in stupid or offensive media I have no affiliation or influence over. It goes both ways.

    You've actually got a really great point there!


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    Stomachache,

    Re: "As a Freesound content creator, I could worry that an association of my real name will reflect stupidly on me should it appear in stupid or offensive media I have no affiliation or influence over. It goes both ways."

    It's a good point--a person may wish to be represented with pseudonym and that wish should be honored. Also, I concede that worrying about how a name sounds in my production is a little fussy and me-centric.

    I still think that "Use this name for attribution" would be a great field to add to the freesound account. (Realizing that all these features take volunteer time and effort.) Currently, I go to the user's profile page and see if they've said anything about how they want to be attributed. I think many people don't understand or think far enough ahead when creating an account that their username will end being what is used for attributing for their sounds.

    -Erik

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    stomachache wrote:
    When we put sounds on Freesound, it's with the understanding virtually anyone could use it for anything, with restrictions only related to crediting and profit motive. Your concern as a producer using Freesound content is that internet pseudonyms instead of real names will sound stupid in your piece. As a Freesound content creator, I could worry that an association of my real name will reflect stupidly on me should it appear in stupid or offensive media I have no affiliation or influence over. It goes both ways.

    +10 to you

    Should we force users to select their nicks from a list of words considered acceptable by producers? Or should Freesound mark uploaders whose nick is too stupid for serious productions? Maybe a caution could be added to the main page stating that picky producers might want to buy the sounds they want and to hell with free stuff made by people in their free time and with their money

    Seriously, reading this thread I regret not having invented a nick even *more* stupid than the one I have. I even considered deleting everything uploaded by me! And by the way, I never reveal my real name (which I have been asked many times), mainly because it's not my problem if a silly nickname is embarrassing to someone, or if it makes someone's credits to look non-professional: not a single bit of my samples was recorded for the sake of industry, if you know what I mean

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    real producers google (translate) my nickname 'klankbeeld' and the find out that it is not that stupid.

    It means "sound-image"

    very professional, hahahahaha wink

    I am making my recordings for fun and I and to help all (professionals included) people that respect my terms of use.
    I like it when others creating a new creations with my sounds. People that create, do no fight.

    I had a long talk with a pro that was mad about people like me (us) because 'you kill the market with your free sounds' he say. My answer was a large loud smile and the line 'Welcome in 2013, the world of internet, the end of producers rules. creativity is endless now'.
    That was the end of the interview.
    And If a producer doesn't respect my nickname as 2013, he is living in the pre-internet days......

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    People who are looking for sounds, should not have prejudices regarding to the nickname.
    I know what ,klankbeeld, means and dobroide (dobro ide) translated to my lanuage (Bosnian) means , It goes well, or it is smooth, which is also cool smile

    ..and you are so right. The era of content (audio, video...) monopol is finished.
    There are home/field recording, internet...Freesound.org

    never mind the bollocks zagi2
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    zagi2 wrote:
    ...translated to my lanuage (Bosnian) means , It goes well, or it is smooth, which is also cool smile

    glad to know that, serendipity in action!

    D

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    If you translate my name from Ancient Sumerian it means: "Pigs can't fly"


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    Did they had pigs in Ancient Sumer? wink

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    ayamahambho wrote:
    Did they had pigs in Ancient Sumer? wink

    They had wild boar type creatures. Anyway, sorry for derailing the thread.


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    But they could not fly, right?

    never mind the bollocks zagi2
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    Who knows what the power of Ancient Genetics was... wink

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    My username, is my sir name, so it's pretty spot on. But perhaps if people wanted to be attributed by their name, they'd made their username like that. Jest sayin' smile

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    Kyster wrote:
    My username, is my sir name, so it's pretty spot on. But perhaps if people wanted to be attributed by their name, they'd made their username like that. Jest sayin' smile

    But then I don't see why they'd use any other license than CC0 on their sounds. Perhaps they don't realize the problem that has been pointed out at the time of making their account.

    Which means, I've got a funny username, and I'm making it difficult for podcast operators (and others who like to give credit), because, well, obviously they don't wanna say, "by afleetingspeck."
    This gives me even more reason to make all my sounds CC0, so people don't have to bother contacting me for my real name.
    A really good point, OP! smile

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