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    Here is his excuse...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L85uOzL2xA

    This is not an excuse. You are still making money from a channel which was built on deception. Why should you be allowed to profit from this action?

    If you do take responsibility as you claim then close the channel.

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    SoundEffectsFactory wrote:
    That is not an excuse, this is my side of the story explaining my actions and taking responsibility. If your that stupid that is not my problem. And you really expect 100's of attributions/donation requests to be changed overnight?

    You knew what you were doing building this channel and joining the YouTube Partner Program. When signing that Partner Program contract with YouTube you clearly state that YOU are the copyright owner of all videos and their Audio.

    The magnitude of your task only belies the magnitude of your deception. So why don't you close the channel and start it again properly?

    In the video you continue this deception by claiming you somehow weren't aware of what was required.

    BTW: Attribution — You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor

    So even by attributing these files, until you have contacted the authors of each and every one to ask for how they would like to be attributed you are still breaking the terms of the license.

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    Delete them and don't re-upload them.
    Why start it again when those sounds are already available on Freesound in the original format?
    Why don't you create your own sounds?

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    Corsica_S wrote:
    Delete them and don't re-upload them.
    Why start it again when those sounds are already available on Freesound in the original format?
    Why don't you create your own sounds?

    Because he makes money off this YouTube Partner Channel through on-video advertising revenue. This channel is based on copyright theft, fraud and deception. It's cynical and calculated, I see no evidence of a mistake here.

    I wonder if he can remove the videos fast enough before the copyright claims already submitted kick in?

    Watching...

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    Another sound violating attribution:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYXvZGbJPiw&list;=UUYIxR_86Ck0sCL26eVuumvQ

    is actually
    http://www.freesound.org/people/klankbeeld/sounds/140886/

    Is anyone still counting?

    hmmmm..... erm..... I forgot...
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    SoundEffectsFactorydespite the fact that many of you were negative towards me in my efforts to correct my mistakes

    Because your actions to:

    1. Deceive people into thinking you created the sounds.

    2. Fraudulently providing copyright clearance to hapless users (interesting to see what happens when some of your customers get pinged for copyright infringement)

    3. Continued (post bust) attempts to obfuscate your deliberate and calculated attempts to maintain a revenue stream from a web of samples you had no right to use.

    4. Failure to delete a YouTube channel that is build on a fraud.

    The negative reactions are fully legitimate and it's interesting to see Google searches will associate this thread with SoundEffectsFactory over time. It's now the fourth most popular response on a google search for "SoundEffectsFactory"

    These were not "mistakes", they are calculated actions designed to make a profit from copyright fraud.

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    Haha, SoundEffectsFactory has deleted my comments answering how to find the original files on freesound and also blocked me from posting on the page! Now that's willingness to do the right thing...

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    My heartbeat is gone:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ickVneWQ72Q

    RIP

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    SoundEffectsFactory wrote:
    ... only a few remain from freesound which I have remembered to be CC0 and/or I have received permission from the artist. Any other remaining freesounds under the attribution licence will be correctly attributed right away

    The very first example of infringement of the attribution license in this thread ...
    http://www.freesound.org/forum/legal-help-and-attribution-questions/33381/65430

    currently does not have proper attribution, just those nasty bit.ly things ...

    SoundEffectsFactory wrote:
    Dramatic Bass "Dun Dun Dun"
    SoundEffectsFactorySoundEffectsFactory·235 videos
    83,301

    Published on Mar 30, 2012

    DOWNLOAD LINK!
    http://bit.ly/NVyHi7

    The classic smile

    Attribution:
    dun dun dun.wav by Simon_Lacelle
    Link: http://bit.ly/X8ykG8
    Licence Terms: http://bit.ly/X8ve4W

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnmp_oAHRC0

    In this case the "DOWNLOAD LINK!" is to mediafire (rather than paywithatweet.com ).
    The downloaded file is called "dramatic bass dun dun dun SoundEffectsFactory.wav"
    The wav file does not have any metadata indicating the sound requires attribution.
    http://support.mediafire.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/56/1/what-if-i-find-my-copyrighted-material-on-mediafire

    SoundEffectsFactory wrote:
    ... only a few remain from freesound which I have remembered to be CC0

    Don't trust your memory as apparently it is deficient, go through your all of your Freesound attribution list instead ... http://www.freesound.org/people/SoundEffectsFactory/downloaded_sounds

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    Luffy's record scratch [freesound #3536] still isn't properly attributed either : it currently still has the nasty "bit.ly" links ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPGcpIXeA-4

    UPDATE (+2hours): Luffy (and Simon_Lacelle) and now attributed properly ( but only after prompting by moi ).

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    Thank you guys for this post. I mad up my mind. To stop this hateful use of our sound I decided to change some sounds back in Attribution license.

    I made an extra text as description for every sound.

    Maybe this is a way to help this kind of people away from abusing our hard work

    here is the text for all the types of licenses I use:

    Creative common 0;
    When you use this sound it would be nice if you spent a voluntarily donation to freesound. Remind that this is not a must. You are free to skip this request.
    Please credit/attribute me and freesound.org if you use this sound. Please do it like this: sound from http://www.freesound.org/people/klankbeeld/
    Do not use an indirect link.

    Click here to lend your support to: Freesound 2011-2012 donations and make a donation at www.pledgie.com !

    Attribution;
    When you use this sound it would be nice if you spent a voluntarily donation to freesound.
    YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO CREDIT/ATTRIBUTE me (klankbeeld) and freesound.org in your work If you use this sound. Do it like this: sound from http://www.freesound.org/people/klankbeeld/
    Do not use an indirect link.

    Click here to lend your support to: Freesound 2011-2012 donations and make a donation at www.pledgie.com !

    Attribution Non-commercial;
    When you use this sound COMMERCIAL, with or without credits/attribution, you have to spent a donation on freesound.org.

    When you use this sound NON-COMMERCIAL it would be nice if you spent a voluntarily donation to freesound. Remind that this is not a must. You are free to skip this request.
    You always have to credit/attribute me (klankbeeld) and freesound.org in your work if you use this sound. Do it like this please: Sound ??? from http://www.freesound.org/people/klankbeeld/
    Do not use an indirect link.

    Click here to lend your support to: Freesound 2011-2012 donations and make a donation at www.pledgie.com !

    When you send me a PM with your e-mail-address i send you the copy=past document asap

    To hear, you first have to listen
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    Currently “SoundEffectsFactory” has still got some of some of Setuniman’s top-notch, (and no doubt very lucrative), music on their YouTube channel with the “bit.ly” obfuscated attribution links ...

    SoundEffectsFactory wrote:
    To check out his other work, and obtain licencing info, click here:
    http://bit.ly/VPGKQq
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXGgEtW3ijI

    By using a “bit.ly” link you’ve accidentally done Setuniman the favour of obtaining some market research ...


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    “SoundEffectsFactory” You'll better check my licenses and the way you attribute. See the text under my sounds....

    I will follow you in your dreams by abuse. My horror sounds are more powerful than you think.

    wwwhhhaaaaa!!!

    To hear, you first have to listen
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    Here is another sound, this one by HerbertBoland
    http://www.freesound.org/people/HerbertBoland/sounds/33637/
    License is: attribution non-commercial

    Well...
    so far for attribution... and non-commercial...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvwpTtxrtbg

    Courtesy of the SoudEffectsCopyMachine !

    hmmmm..... erm..... I forgot...
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    @AlienXXX and others: Today I changed the license of this sound and some other popular ones I have to: "attribution non-commercial".

    @SoundEffectsFactory: Be so kind and remove http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvwpTtxrtbg.

    Thanks.

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    AlienXXX wrote:
    Here is another sound, this one by HerbertBoland
    http://www.freesound.org/people/HerbertBoland/sounds/33637/
    License is: attribution non-commercial ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvwpTtxrtbg

    I missed that one. Over 900 pay-with-a-tweet's on that in seven months ...

    plus advertising revenue proportional to its 25 thousand YouTube views, kerching.
    But no credit for the creator , (nor do those who bought it with-a-tweet know it has to be attributed in their project). Maybe SoundEffectsFactory can tweet them back to let them know.

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    HerbertBoland wrote:
    @AlienXXX and others: Today I changed the license of this sound and some other popular ones I have to: "attribution non-commercial".

    @SoundEffectsFactory: Be so kind and remove http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvwpTtxrtbg.

    Thanks.

    As per his last post SoundEffectsFactory is no longer active on this thread.
    (he may still be there... lurking in the shadows.... watching)
    But to be sure he received this message, you may want to contact him by a more direct means.

    hmmmm..... erm..... I forgot...
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    Good idea.

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    Rock Savage’s blood splatter which I mentioned on page 1 of this thread
    http://www.freesound.org/forum/legal-help-and-attribution-questions/33381/65445

    hasn’t been properly attributed yet ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XKg_o1YfTg

    [ nor has Setuniman’s ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXGgEtW3ijI ]

    SoundEffectsFactory wrote: [20 hours ago]
    ... only a few remain from freesound ... Any other remaining freesounds under the attribution licence will be correctly attributed right away ...
    http://www.freesound.org/forum/legal-help-and-attribution-questions/33381/65564

    In reality it looks like he's only going to correct the infringements which are brought to his attention, as each correction will lose him income. IMO all future complaints about their infringement of the attribution license should go directly to YouTube ... http://www.freesound.org/forum/legal-help-and-attribution-questions/33381/65551

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    Interestingly, SoundEffectsFactory has had no trouble in attributing sounds from other sources:

    A lot of military sounds on his channel have credits.
    For example:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_QKiIab_qg
    "Thanks for viewing! Make sure to check out my channel for more HD sounds effects uploaded frequently! If you like what you see, Subscribe! Request a Sound Effect/Ambience on my channel!

    Special thanks to LoneSoldierFilms:
    http://youtube.com/lonesoldierfilms
    "

    When there is attribution on these sounds there is a direct link. No shitty bit.ly links.
    So why the issue with Freesound????
    Ahhh... I know! He just doesn't like the word "Free" !

    hmmmm..... erm..... I forgot...