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Started August 20th, 2013 · 9 replies · Latest reply by Bram 10 years, 7 months ago
Hey!
I've raised this issue before, but it seems like nothing has changed since then.
So I want to hit this issue harder, stronger and better this time.
I've recorded a short screencast that should explain the issue and show it's scale:
The Freesound's internal search engine fails to sort items - no matter what I do it's really, really wrong.
Could anyone shine some light on why is this, and how can we fix that?
Bless ya!
- unfa
Just wanted to let you know. Your voice cuts out at 0:53 then comes back very briefly until it cuts out again at 1:19 for the remainder of the video.
Tried reloading the video, but seems to be a problem with the encoding or something.
Might want to check that
Thanks, Head-Phaze - Looks like I still have no luck with screencasting.
The main point is that when I expect to see search results sorted by downloads count with "Most first", the first item on the list has 1000+ downloads, while on the second page there is an item with 2000+ downloads, so the sorting seems like unfinished.
No problem.
Yes it does seem like a problem. It should be fairly straight forward to correctly list search items by downloads, the general purpose of the video was expressed. I don't know what's happening here, maybe one of our tech team will shed some light on this...
You are completely right but the explanation is not so simple...
Freesound has two data sources. One is the database which contains all the data, the second is the search server, which contains some of the data. The database is always up to date. The search server is only updated infrequently. This means that the items in the search engine are older (out of date) most of the time compared to the database.
The display of a single sound in a list or a single sound display page you see is created from the database and is mostly one day old. The ORDER of the sounds you see in a search is defined by the search server, which has outdated data.
So, your sounds are being ordered judging on the number of downloads it had the last time the search server was updated...
I hope this helps explain the problem even though it does not give you the solution to your question (which is: which is my most popular sound). I would say that using the API you could get the info you want, but the problem will be the same. I remind the guys at MTG know about this, it's something we've known for a long time...
- Bram
Wow, thank you Bram for this explanation and taking care change this for better.
I guess the search server is updated infrequenlty to save excessive costs?
I expect that working on a million-items big index isn't an easy task (and to give immideate results you need a lot of quick memory and processng power available), so the job os the search server is surely needed.
I hope the update of it's index can be tweaked somehow.